UAE's EDGE Group Proposes Local Production of AL TARIQ Smart Weapons in India

EDGE Group, a leading UAE-based technology and defense company, has expressed its interest in collaborating with India on the production of its AL TARIQ smart weapons. This move signifies a potential boost to India’s indigenous defense capabilities.

EDGE Group’s Managing Director & CEO, Hamad Al Marar, has proposed the transfer of AL TARIQ technology to India, enabling local production by Bharat Dynamics Limited (BDL). This collaboration could lead to significant benefits for both countries.

Furthermore, EDGE Group and Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL), the manufacturer of India’s Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) Tejas, have already initiated a joint program to integrate AL TARIQ with the Tejas. This collaboration highlights the potential for a comprehensive partnership between the two companies.

The ongoing integration efforts aim for completion later this year. A successful integration would pave the way for demonstrations to the Indian Air Force (IAF), showcasing the advantages of the AL TARIQ weapon system and potentially leading to its adoption by the IAF.

 

[amerjit johal]

If UAE buys tejas, or agrees for local manufacture deal then We can integrate al taariq for them to use.

When you can afford Ferrari - why buy a Maruti Suzuki.

 

[Mrityunjay Shrivastav]

Ballistic missiles are the first thing that any nation looking for defense development makes. North Korea has a longer range missile and Pakistan has MRVs before DRDO did.

As for money, they got a blank check. Literally. They asked for 300 crores. They got it. Then they kept asking for more and kept getting it. At last count, they had 2800 crores sanctioned in 2009. ~1900 crores had been spent till then. Out of the 900 crores or so of fresh funds, they could only spend 100 crores over the next 7-8 years.

So they had far more than what they could spend. Mod had given a blank check and the idiots had no idea what to do with it. So comparing with western nations or anyone else is moot. That would only matter if they were starved for funds. Given what they had, they did a sh!tty job. That’s the most polite way to put it. Ideally, every single scientist and engineer who ever touched the project shall be tried for trea$on and their properties and accounts must be seized to recover the money wasted. That’s how bad a job it was .

Can you back it up by any source or it's just made up number lobbyist to spread your propaganda?
Both north korea and pakistan got their missiles from china just like any other "next gen" tech they develop

From artillery to submarines everything in there inventory is chinese or some modernized soviet gear

Rafale cost way more than F35 why french are buying it? M45 SLBM is most expensive in development cost why they didn't imported american like british

Strategic autonomy is thing lobbyist like you living on 50 paisa per gun won't understand

 

[Mrityunjay Shrivastav]

DRDO tried making the aero engine for decades and failed. Kaveri is de@d.

Then why Godrej is making 7 kaveri? Typical lobbyist troll know more than DRDO, Godrej and MoD

 

[Apocalypse gupta]

When you can afford Ferrari - why buy a Maruti Suzuki.

lol, true. But cost not the only factors. UAE is building strong relations with India, and since it cant buy chinese or russians jets (out of fear of US) it could go for Indian jets. Maybe not tejas mk1a, but mk2 is a possibility. if you look at qatar and saudis, they buy a huge amount of military hardware from america as well as europe to curry favour.

 

[Anton Sokolov]

I feel your hurt, but situation has changed. Domestic R&D spending has increased a lot. Recently solar industries unvield 125kg bomb, and it is building heavier bombs.

What you said about India buying rampage etc, is because domestic missiles and bombs of that category are not ready for induction yet. So they are meant to serve immediate need if fighting break out tomorrow.

Domestic R&D in private sector is minimal to existenet. Only few like Solar Group has done in few small segments. What happened to their long range MLRS program ? Adani is interested in changing tag of Isreali products with Indian tag? Garuda defense not only buys Chinese components but the entire drone systems like their recent Trishula . DRDO's budget is less than what government spends in fertilizer subsidy.
Recently we have seen that EEL provided Multimode handgranades ahead of schedule and the quality was also good ; but now after spending so much there is no repeat order. TATA spent much in ATAGS and Kestral but no order is coming. No intention on MARG or even Garuda 105. Bhargavastra drone killer was being developed by Solar Group through its own investment, no help I'd coming from govt. When there is no commitment from Army then why would they invest in R&D in the first place ? To get bankrupt ? This is the reason why TATA, Mahindra , Reliance willing to cooperate with Airbus , Martin Lockheed and Boeing to make aircraft , but have 0 interest in producing HAL MTA or RTA or investment in AMCA. Because they do not want to get bankrupt .
Until Babus are slapped out, defense sector won't develop

 

[Anton Sokolov]

Oh but spending was never the problem. DRDO always had a blank check when it came to its projects. Literal blank checks. Spend as much as you want just get us the product. And they always failed. Despite getting whatever they asked for. Literally, no amount was too big. But here we are.

😆 🤣 Spending on R&D and on indigenous products had always the problem in India. Who does give you this info about"blank check?" DRDO's budget is less than farmer's subsidy in fertilizer. DRDO hardly failed in its objective. It is illiterate mainstream media who reported it such. Arjun tank performed well , some corrupt army officials not published the facts that in trials Arjun performed 10000 times better than T90 to get rokra from Russia.
AMCA concept started in 2010 but money for it released in now in 2024. So the timeliness should be expected from since the money is released.
LCH , LUH are ready, but corrupt babus will delay and army's love for Foreign products especially during emergency is world known.

 

[Anton Sokolov]

HAL and Bharat Dynamics had already entered into agreement with Edge group in 2023. It's a geo political move, recall I2U2, with UAE coming closer there are lot of joint ventures and lot of options are being explored for working together that also includes transit route to Europe from India.

Lol , destroy your defense industry then. Make so called geo political move and sell your expertise and then make your citizen workers of sheikhs

 

[Anton Sokolov]

India bought LORA and RAMPAGE for the simple reason that the respective weapons were not ready indigenously. Claiming to have indigenous capability for something is different from delivering it actually. The problem with DRDO and HAL is more hype and low deliverables ! Check your facts. Barak-8 was developed fully and commercially by Israel way ahead of Akash. Customers will always buy what is readily available and has a good track record as they are paying full price. No one will a product which is claimed to be almost ready. France went with Rafale alone rather than the European consortium. Even for Rafale, they were realistic about its capabilities and built it step by step from Mk-1 to Mk-3. French did not go in for tendering as the jets met their requirement at that time and now.

LORA and Rempage would not have to be bought if SAAW upgrade and Rudram were done fast track and money was released on time. See the budget of IAI and Iwi and Elbit systems as compared to DRDO and HAl and then comment.
Inferior mindset is within you.

 

[Anton Sokolov]

DRDO tried making the aero engine for decades and failed. Kaveri is de@d.

Lol, How much amount is spent on Kaveri ? And how much amount is spent on M88 or GE404 or GE414 . Some day check it.

 

[Akshat]

😆 🤣 Spending on R&D and on indigenous products had always the problem in India. Who does give you this info about"blank check?" DRDO's budget is less than farmer's subsidy in fertilizer. DRDO hardly failed in its objective. It is illiterate mainstream media who reported it such. Arjun tank performed well , some corrupt army officials not published the facts that in trials Arjun performed 10000 times better than T90 to get rokra from Russia.
AMCA concept started in 2010 but money for it released in now in 2024. So the timeliness should be expected from since the money is released.
LCH , LUH are ready, but corrupt babus will delay and army's love for Foreign products especially during emergency is world known.

LCH is ready? Where is the ATGM?

LUH is ready? Where is the auto pilot?

AMCA money was released in 2024. But when did they ask for money? Barely 11 months back. So they took all this time in the design phase.

And let’s talk about Tejas mk2. In design phase since 2005. HAL promised to roll it out in August 2022(20 months or so from the statement) which proves all the money and clearances were already there. Where is it?

Arjun performed better than T90? Got a single official proof? Arjun is a case study on how not to design a product. A tank that can’t kill even a standing tank and can’t be taken to war in the first place. Even junk is too lenient a word for it.

It’s not the media. CAG itself audited DRDO and told the parliament that it lies through its teeth even to MoD. It’s on record.

And yes. Blank check budgets. Go and read CAG reports. Take Kaveri for example. So much money was given that DRDO couldn’t even use it. The idiots had no idea what to even do with that money. They were left scratching their heads.

 

[Anton Sokolov]

Understand the fact we need the integration of Al-Taariq more than they do !! The integration of Al-Taariq is for offering Tejas for potential gulf customers, not for domestic use!

😆 🤣 We do not need them . We have already enough precision guided systems like Tara , SAAW (with wings) etc.

 

[Akshat]

Then why Godrej is making 7 kaveri? Typical lobbyist troll know more than DRDO, Godrej and MoD

Godrej is a vendor. They will make what the client asks for.

As for DRDO, we all know they are lying cheats and they lie even to MoD. When did MoD say that the engine works at all? Show me a single comment.

 

[Akshat]

Can you back it up by any source or it's just made up number lobbyist to spread your propaganda?
Both north korea and pakistan got their missiles from china just like any other "next gen" tech they develop

From artillery to submarines everything in there inventory is chinese or some modernized soviet gear

Rafale cost way more than F35 why french are buying it? M45 SLBM is most expensive in development cost why they didn't imported american like british

Strategic autonomy is thing lobbyist like you living on 50 paisa per gun won't understand

Who said Rafale costs more than F35? If you compare the price of clean sheet product with the cost of fully loaded package, of course it will cost more. Talk of full packages. Rafale has beaten even F18 and Rafale on price. So if Rafale is costlier than F35, then F35 must be cheaper than any 4th gen plane.

And such a lame excuse that everything Korea or Pak has is Chinese. Fact is they made it and made it faster than DRDo.

Indeed, strategic autonomy is a thing which a socialist like you will never understand.

 

[Apocalypse gupta]

Domestic R&D in private sector is minimal to existenet. Only few like Solar Group has done in few small segments. What happened to their long range MLRS program ? Adani is interested in changing tag of Isreali products with Indian tag? Garuda defense not only buys Chinese components but the entire drone systems like their recent Trishula . DRDO's budget is less than what government spends in fertilizer subsidy.
Recently we have seen that EEL provided Multimode handgranades ahead of schedule and the quality was also good ; but now after spending so much there is no repeat order. TATA spent much in ATAGS and Kestral but no order is coming. No intention on MARG or even Garuda 105. Bhargavastra drone killer was being developed by Solar Group through its own investment, no help I'd coming from govt. When there is no commitment from Army then why would they invest in R&D in the first place ? To get bankrupt ? This is the reason why TATA, Mahindra , Reliance willing to cooperate with Airbus , Martin Lockheed and Boeing to make aircraft , but have 0 interest in producing HAL MTA or RTA or investment in AMCA. Because they do not want to get bankrupt .
Until Babus are slapped out, defense sector won't develop

every point you made I have vounter to that, but it would be too long. So I would just say that, private R&D in defence was non existent 6-8 years ago, and it is continuously increasing. Most of the R&D we never hear about. For eg, for tejas mk1, we had less than 50% indigenous components and for mk1a and mk2, it is going to be more than 70%. This means 100s of components have been indigenised and these are built by private sector companies. As for orders, army or air force gives orders when there is need. Stuff like grenades have a shelf life which is pretty short. 10-15 years when stored properly. slowly odl stocks will be replaced by new. Same goes for armored vehicles. ATAGS and kestrel were based on DRDO tech. And this is the first iteration. You dont see huge orders for first iteration. Army has sent feedback, and it will be incorporated when new model comes.

 

[Amit Ray]

Lol , destroy your defense industry then. Make so called geo political move and sell your expertise and then make your citizen workers of sheikhs

Where's your defence industry?? What can they produce?? Not even an engine of fighter jets.

 

[Rational Guy]

Who said Rafale costs more than F35? If you compare the price of clean sheet product with the cost of fully loaded package, of course it will cost more. Talk of full packages. Rafale has beaten even F18 and Rafale on price. So if Rafale is costlier than F35, then F35 must be cheaper than any 4th gen plane.

And such a lame excuse that everything Korea or Pak has is Chinese. Fact is they made it and made it faster than DRDo.

Indeed, strategic autonomy is a thing which a socialist like you will never understand.

For ballistic missiles Pakistan got it from NK and NK obviously got it from China, this is a known fact corroborated by multiple sources. In other aspects DRDO may have failed but they've absolutely done well in ballistic missiles especially RCI Hyderabad under APJ. But of course an extremist black or white son a of a b*tch like you won't see this. For you even the achievements must be overlooked.

 

[Sandeep]

Currently DRDO haven't been able to design a long range bomb yet as it's still under development so we can make a few temporary purchases if we are running low. It would be better if we can have a indigenous private company who can develop and make long range bombs in India as it will be much cheaper, quicker and we don't have to keep on making foreign expensive imports.

 

[GMR]

Basic question is that what is so special abt this bomb that IAF will need to adopt this, except only if there is any middle east / Gulf country customer?

 

[Akshat]

For ballistic missiles Pakistan got it from NK and NK obviously got it from China, this is a known fact corroborated by multiple sources. In other aspects DRDO may have failed but they've absolutely done well in ballistic missiles especially RCI Hyderabad under APJ. But of course an extremist black or white son a of a b*tch like you won't see this. For you even the achievements must be overlooked.

Yeah yeah. Come to personal abuses when you can’t fight on facts. Some manners your mom taught you.

 

[Akshat]

Lol, How much amount is spent on Kaveri ? And how much amount is spent on M88 or GE404 or GE414 . Some day check it.

Again…what’s the point of checking it? Tell me how much was sanctioned for Kaveri and how much GtRE was able to spend? That’s what matters. Give more money for sure, just not to GTRE as they are already sitting on a huge cash pile and have no idea what to do with it.